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August 11, 2006

Interview with Jason Drake of Cassettes Won't Listen | MP3s

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The Merry Swankster recently had a sit-down with Jason Drake of Cassettes Won’t Listen. He’s booked on the headlining slot this coming Tuesday at the Delancey for the next installment of the insta-hit, NYC Beg Yr Pardon* party. You would never know from listening to the idiosyncratic blend of indie rock and electronica, but Cassettes Won’t Listen as a band is actually a one man project helmed by Jason Drake.


*For you geeks that like to match a face to your blogger, MS.com’s own Jeff Klingman will be DJing part of the night.

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Merry Swankster: There seems to be a bit of analog tape nostalgia going on these days, at least incorporated into band names. How did you come up with Cassettes Won’t Listen?

Jason Drake: The name came to me around the time I started moving away from hip-hop production and back into songwriting. It mainly has to do with the process of songwriting and how your recording medium is limited to only absorbing what you choose to reveal. At the time of recording Nobody’s Moving I was experiencing a rough patch in life, of course there was the heartbreak / rough breakup which is the main ingredient when writing a song (its sort of the basis of Songwriting 101). I lost a good friend to a car accident, and had a knife put to my throat while being robbed of $7.

These three things took me away from the fairly sterile process of beatmaking for MCs and brought me back to expressing more emotion on tape. It was my way of dealing. The only problem is that as much as I’d let go while recording, I would never receive anything back, sort of like a bad therapist who only repeats your problems. So the cassette wasn’t listening to anything I was saying; only repeating what was already there.

A “cassette” is also someone who is getting played by their surroundings. You can see this happening in all walks of life, from an A&R executive picking the next “hot band” to a biased journalist reporting the news. Its basically someone who is not true to themselves, these people won’t listen.


MS: We don’t know anything about journalistic bias… Seeing how Cassettes Won’t Listen is a solo endeavor, how do you approach live performances?

Drake: When starting CWL I really didn’t have the intention to start performing live. I approached the music from a producers standpoint at first, not knowing what the end result would sound like. It was only when Piano’s, a venue in NYC, reached out to me after hearing “Cutting Balloons” on WOXY radio. They said they loved the band and wanted to book “them” for a headlining spot.

After stalling and making excuses, telling promoters that the “band” was stuck in the recording studio working on the follow up to Nobody’s Moving, I decided it was time to plan out a live show. I had recently bought Scratch Live to get back into DJing and realized this would be perfect for mixing backup tracks while jumping back and forth from guitar to keys and singing. I was sort of tired of watching people play backup tracks on iPods for their sets so I figured this would be a bit more interesting to experience. I at least had control over the backup tracks and figured if an MC can rock a show with all back up tracks on vinyl why can’t an indie rock band? I’m currently still using Scratch Live with guitar, synths, etc., but also bringing on special guests (vocalists, MCs, drummers, guitarists, etc).


MS: “Cutting Balloons” and your cover of Pavement’s “Cut Your Hair” have seen airtime on both KCRW in Los Angeles and on Sirius Satellite radio. What does it feel like to hear your own music on the radio?

Drake: I always thought it would be an amazing experience. You know, like that part in La Bamba when Richie Valens finally gets played on the radio. They all freak the fuck out. I was happy that the music was well received but not to the extent of [Valens’] family. I guess I’m waiting for that to hit me so I can freak the fuck out too.

MS: How do spotlights from blogs relate in terms of reaching new audiences? Have you seen tangible feedback after blog love from high-profile sites like Stereogum and Gorilla Vs. Bear?

Drake: The greatest thing about getting love from these blogs is the trickle down effect. If Gorilla Vs. Bear posts a track of mine then it seems that the blogs that follow GVB will also write about my music, exposing my name to [their respective] audiences. With my music and remixes I’m crossing over genres so I have hip hop sites writing alongside indie blogs. Its interesting because I currently have contests for the new CWL t-shirt on Alternative Press’ website (fans of Fall Out Boy and fucking Cobra Starship,) and the same contest about to launch on Hip Hop Game’s site (fans of 50 Cent and Kanye West). I’ve seen tangible feedback by way of sales of Nobody’s Moving and CWL T-shirt sales on the Dope Lotus Records website.


MS: The Blogosphere geeks have been all over your remixes for Midlake and Dr. Octagon. Your remix of Asobi Seksu’s “Strawberries” is also coming out soon. Describe the remix process. Who approaches who?

Drake: It all depends on the situation really. For the Midlake and Dr. Octagon remixes I was approached by the labels so they could have a remix to help promote the upcoming releases. I’m friends with Asobi Seksu so that sort of happened naturally and I’ve recently wrapped up a remix for The Diggs who were fans of the music so they came to me.

I approach a remix from a hip hop producers mentality. I rarely use anything other than the vocal track and I usually don’t listen to the original song much. I feel it would have a negative effect on the outcome. I usually scrap the chord progression and song structure and create the music from scratch. I often look at it as a puzzle where I have to unlock the music within the vocals. I can usually listen to music and hear a completely new song underneath the vocals. That’s usually how I start. It’s much more rewarding instead of taking the original guitar or drum track and looping it in an “unexpected” way. I hate remixes that sound like the original song. Some producers don’t get very creative with their mixes.


MS: How did the Roger O’Donnell remix of “Cutting Balloons” come about?

Drake: I work closely with a label/artist management company, World’s Fair. They’re putting out [O’Donnell’s] record on Great Society, a brand new label they recently launched. I originally did a remix for him which he liked, he heard “Cutting Balloons” and turned around a remix of the track in 2 days. I guess I’d take it as him liking the song.


MS: You work as the Director of Marketing for indie hip hop label Definitive Jux. Do you think the immersion of hip hop during your day job crosses over at all to Cassettes Won’t Listen?

Drake: Hip Hop has always been a huge part of my life so it has always been a part of my music. I grew up watching Yo! MTV Raps with Dre and Ed Lover, listening to Ice Cube, Public Enemy, De La Soul, etc. I was the kid rocking a Chicago Bulls Starter jacket, taking people to school on the basketball court in fresh new Shaq Reebok Pumps. I’d also be locked inside my room trying to teach myself Nirvana and Sebadoh songs on acoustic guitar.


MS: Hip hop and Rock. Sounds like a musical Venn diagram of suburban youth. So where did this schooling take place?

The schooling was more in basketball terms when I was young. I wasn’t really one to try and school people on music back then. I was more likely to school you by way of 3 point jump shot or slam dunk in your face (actually I could never dunk, I could touch the rim though).

I grew up in a suburb of San Francisco and moved around the country due to my stepfather being in the Navy. We spent some time in San Diego about 10 minutes from Tijuana, then down to New Orleans for couple years. We eventually moved to New Jersey and that’s how I was exposed to NYC. So I pretty much bounced from west to east coasts through my teenage years and got exposed to a wide spectrum of people and cultures. New Orleans was the shit.
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The following questions were submitted by a panel of Nobel laureates, loyal readers still using dial-up, and a Shakespeare loving dog named Sir John Falstaff. In honor of classic hip hop, we’ll dub it the MS Furious Five.


MS: How would your parents describe Cassettes Won’t Listen?

Drake: A band that might get them a free hot tub when the big advance checks are rolling in.


MS: What is the first album you remember getting?

Drake: MC Hammer Please Hammer Don’t Hurt Em. I’m happy with that being my first, that was the shit back in the day


MS: Is Kool Keith’s Oldsmobile really bionic?

Drake: If being made out of strippers and fried chicken equals bionic. Then yes


MS: Have you been north of 14th St.? Is it as scary as they say?

Drake: I work above 14th street, its in a ghetto they call Chelsea


MS: If Cassettes would listen, what would you tell them?

Drake: Wake up
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[MP3] Cassettes Won't Listen - Cutting Balloons

[MP3]Cassettes Won't Listen - Cut Your Hair

CWL Dates:

8.15.06 - New York, NY - Delancey Lounge (Beg Yr Pardon #6)*
8.23.06 - New York, NY - Sin-e
8.31.06 - Maxwell's - Hoboken, NJ

*w/ EZ Machine, My Teenage Stride, Animandible .
DJs: Jeff of Merry Swankster and Matilda Von Crumbcake


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great interview...

Posted by: brian at August 11, 2006 12:32 PM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55693668@N00/212676491/

The one and only Sir John Falstaff

Posted by: Kelli Douglas at August 11, 2006 03:21 PM

The accompanying photo has too much headroom. They could have photoshopped the shower head out of the picture. Lazy artist! Shame, lazy, lazy artist!

Posted by: neil at February 9, 2008 04:27 PM

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