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April 27, 2007

Every seed in its right place

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For an explanation of our Radiohead tournament, click here.

On Wednesday night, the esteemed Randall Monty and I got together, via IM, to seed the Radiohead tournament. We initially suggested our eight top prospects (in order of preference), with any song mentioned in both lists deserving a #1 seed. Three such songs existed: "Paranoid Android", "Creep", and "Karma Police". Through a process too complicated to explain quickly, we got "Everything in its Right Place. Since we believe in transparency, I have included the IM transcript of our seeding selections for the first 16 teams, after the jump. Feel free to poke huge holes in our obvious biases. There can be no tournament without seeding controversies! On Monday, we will reveal 5-8.

ONE SEEDS
Paranoid Android
Creep
Karma Police
Everything in its Right Place

TWO SEEDS
Idioteque
Fake Plastic Trees
High & Dry
2+2=5 (The Lukewarm.)

THREE SEEDS
Planet Telex
Let Down
Just
There There. (The Boney King of Nowhere.)

FOUR SEEDS
No Surprises
(Nice Dream)
Optimistic
Knives Out

For those of you counting at home, that's one Pablo Honey song, five Bends songs, four OK Computer songs, three Kid A songs, one Amnesiac song, two Hail to the Thief songs, and zero B-side/soundtrack songs.

8:49 PM me: Hello!
8:50 PM Randall: what's up buddy
me: Are you ready?
Randall: yep
me: ok - before we start - so I sent you an e-mail today - to ask if you wanted to seed the tournament tonight - the e-mail was just this:
Do you want to do the seeding tonight?
8:51 PM Only I sent it to the wrong person - a woman on my contact list that I don't know very well.
named Randi
Randall: awesome
did she say yes?
me: i had to link to our Web site to prove that it had to do with tournaments.
Randall: and what did she interpret "seeding" to mean?
8:52 PM me: I immediately sent a follow-up; I can't imagine.
Ok - so did you get my e-mail? We have four songs for three spots. Before we can even get to seeding.
A Reminder (Karma Police) 5% (5 votes)Pearly* Paranoid Android 5% (5 votes)Fog Knives Out 5% (5 votes)Gagging Order Go to Sleep [US] 5% (5 votes)
8:53 PM I have my three picks easily; let me know when you have yours.
Randall: yeah, i'm waiting for my ipod to start up so i can listen to them
this computer is rediculously slow
me: ok
8:56 PM Randall: perly gets one of the spots
me: I concur
Randall: it only because it's the only one i've got
8:57 PM well then, let's get to it!
#1s?
me: Well, if you'll defer to me, I go with A Reminder and Fog
Randall: sounds good
8:58 PM me: do you want me to send the final list?
Randall: please, to gmail, of course
9:00 PM me: sent - so given that we're seeding for a contest that only happens in our hearts and minds - what should we use as qualifiers? It probably has to be a little more complicated than just our four favorite songs.
9:01 PM And I don't know if you saw, but we got threatened with a boycott if Creep wins, I think
9:02 PM Randall: seeding = (popularity + how good it is + how much we like it + video + variable_
9:03 PM me: sounds good - should we submit 8 in order of importance - and have the top four be our seeds?
me: I'm open to any tabulation format
9:04 PM Randall: well, let's hear your top eight then
9:06 PM me: Ok - I think I'm there - one last check
9:07 PM Paranoid AndroidCreepPlanet TelexEverything In Its Right PlaceKarma PoliceHigh And Dry2+2=5 (The Lukewarm)Let Down
9:08 PM Randall: Android, Creep, Ideotech, Just, Karma, Plastic Trees, Surprises, There There
1 = Creep, Android, Karma
9:09 PM me: definties
let's go back to the drawing board for the fourth
I take one of mine and one of yours to suggest
you likewise
if either show up twice, they're in
9:10 PM Randall: ok: ideotech, right place
me: No Surprises and Everything
We have our fourth
Randall: are you keeping track of this, by the way?
me: I know you posted that - and there was a gap, but I couldn't see
9:11 PM yes.
so - would doing a S curve - to make sure albums didn't face each other be too complicated?
9:13 PM Randall: yes
9:14 PM me: I guess I'll keep track of ranking of seeds - and we'll see how complicated it becomes.
Randall: my guess: very
me: so onto 2 seed - how do you want to determine these?
9:15 PM Randall: same way, your four, my four
me: ok
Randall: or, let's use the left over 1s and work from there
2 and 2
me: Why don't you re-paste your leftovers and I'll do mine
we pick from each others
Randall: ok
9:16 PM me: Planet TelexHigh And Dry2+2=5 (The Lukewarm)Let Down
you should have five, i think
Randall: surprises, there there, just, ideotech, plastic trees
9:17 PM me: Idioteque and Fake Plastic
Randall: the other two?
high/dry and 2+2
me: k
9:18 PM so we have 3 OK C; 2 Kid A; 1 Bends; 1 Pablo; 1 Hail; 0 Amnesiac
9:19 PM Randall: we're like the real commitee: we claim that we don't pay attention to conferences
me: Ok - let's keep it fresh - you pick one third seed and a brief reason why; then me; then you; then me
Randall: 3: telex, let down, just, there there
me: no - just one and why
9:20 PM Randall: what?
those are our leftovers from our top eights
me: oh - right ok
nevermind
Randall: nevermind, too?!?!
9:21 PM me: yes - switch the game up
now - for the fourth seed - start by just picking one
Randall: ok
9:22 PM me: wait - is there still one at large
?
Of our first sixteen
Randall: which one?
me: because after first seeds - we were left with 9
9:23 PM Randall: what's the left over?
me: no surprises?
9:24 PM yeah
Randall: sounds good
me: you want that to be your first?
Randall: first #4? yes
9:26 PM me: sorry - rearranging my excel file
ok
9:27 PM man, there's going to be some difficult 7-10 matchups
Randall: always are!
me: (Nice Dream)
Randall: ok, my next #4: optimistic
9:28 PM me: Knives Out
Randall: good call

Posted by Keith O'Brien at April 27, 2007 08:27 AM

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obviously, my boycott threat was taken much more seriously than it was given.

Posted by: dan vaughn at April 27, 2007 09:23 AM

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