Klein, do you have anything by Toy Love or the Stones lying around?

No Toy Love....and I don't think you mean the same Stones as I am thinking of...was there some obscure NZ band called the Stones?

yeah, some dodgy Kiwis calld themselves the Stones to be funny, I guess...it was in the 2nd part of this, maybe...

part 3 has cool footage of Stephen Malkmus covering "Death and the Maiden" and claiming he ripped it off to write "Box Elder"

Finally got to see this--wow. It's like the Holy Grail of NZ pop history, and fills in a lot of holes in my knowledge. Never knew about "the Fall debacle." You've done us all a service.

I know, it's great. for a vinyl devotee like you, I'd imagine a copy of that Fall record on Flying Nun would be something of worshiped relic.

I'm sure somewhere on this planet a shrine has been built to it. Probably in East Squatney. Too bad Smith had already gone back to England. Can you imagine a dust-up between the brutish Fall leader and Chris Knox? My money would have been on Knox. He looks like the kind of guy who would manage OK if he found himself all alone in the NZ wilderness with a buck knife and some beef jerkey and twine. The same cannot be said for the rest of of the Flying Nun contingent, who all seem a bit frail and sensitive.

I thought I read somewhere that the main problem MES had with Fall In A Hole was that it had Marc Riley on the cover.